*** THE OFFICIAL GEORGE ROLL MUST GO THREAD ***

[ScottO1992]

Join the movement.... :)

[Josey Wales]

Plus one for the "Roll must go" camp

[joecct]

Until a fine fellow by the name of Tony Collins signs in here, you're just making waves in the dangling chad graveyard. It's just not happening.

Jerry York was getting booed roundly in Walker (then Clarkson) Arena in 73-74. We stunk. Guess John Hantz and Bob Plane were a lot smarter than the rest of us.

[Josey Wales]

Until a fine fellow by the name of Tony Collins signs in here, you're just making waves in the dangling chad graveyard. It's just not happening.

Jerry York was getting booed roundly in Walker (then Clarkson) Arena in 73-74. We stunk. Guess John Hantz and Bob Plane were a lot smarter than the rest of us.

2 games under .500 and 1 spot from a playoff position in 73-74 (when it was actually an achievement to make the playoffs). Tough crowd to please I guess.

[ScottO1992]

4 straight home losses
losing record at Cheel for the season
probably ANOTHER overall sub .500 season


how much more can you take?

[sdudar]

I was at Walker for every game and no one booed York in 73-74....like no one is booing Roll in 2011;

I was very impressed with Roll's post game interview and I would give him some room to right the ship....

I just cannot understand why he does not go with a different net minder.....not that Karp is playing poorly but this is Hockey 101 when a team is going badly???

Coch Al knew this!

[ScottO1992]

I was very impressed with Roll's post game interview and I would give him some room to right the ship....

You questioned whether Roll had lost control of the team in the Union/RPI thread and questioned whether there is any discipline. Your second post in that very thread directly states "They are in trouble."

How many more games/seasons does "righting the ship" take?

[Rick]

"Good players make good coaches"
(W. O'Flaherty; M. Morris)

[Chaz]

"Good players make good coaches"
(W. O'Flaherty; M. Morris)

Maybe Craig Conroy in the future?

[RSTuthill]

Maybe Craig Conroy in the future?
While Craig Conroy was a good player, I am not sure that was the meaning of the previous quote:)

[vicb]

"Good players make good coaches"
(W. O'Flaherty; M. Morris; George Roll)

Fixed your post .

[Rick]

Fixed your post .
Roger... Merci....

[vicb]

Roger... Merci....

You are welcome.

[ScottO1992]

where does the buck stop? Roll? Yianoukos? Collins? maybe all of them need to go

[daredevilcu]

where does the buck stop? Roll? Yianoukos? Collins? maybe all of them need to go

Having spent as much time that I have around the program in the last 8 years, I can tell you Collins is not the issue. He honestly wants to see the team succeed and puts a lot of effort into it (I've heard this was not the case with previous presidents), but his responsibility is to provide the best Clarkson experience possible for students to get them ahead in life. There are more people at the school than just the hockey team, and he has to make sure all the other programs are succeeding as well.

[ScottO1992]

Winning will demonstrate Collins' commitment to the program - nothing more / nothing less.

[daredevilcu]

Winning will demonstrate Collins' commitment to the program - nothing more / nothing less.

Which totally misses the point I was trying to make about the hockey team probably being a little lower on Collins' priority list than the academic reputation of Clarkson and rightly so.

[ScottO1992]

Geez, there are alot of problems up in Potsdam. Not only do we need a new coach that can recruit and win, sounds like we also need a school president that can multitask and make decisions.

[daredevilcu]

It must be pretty easy to spot all these issues from your armchair. Answering them must be a piece of cake, why don't you go lie down for a while and we'll be all set.

[ScottO1992]

It must be pretty easy to spot all these issues from your armchair. Answering them must be a piece of cake.

Helen Keller could spot all of the issues - from space.


why don't you go lie down for a while and we'll be all set

I am lying down.... fantasizing about a winning record.. a new coach at Clarkson....us winning games at Cheel... the seats filled..... the horn ringing.... us sweeping a playoff series... winning the ECACs.... an NCAA berth...... a bucket of Sergi's wings.... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[daredevilcu]

Helen Keller could spot all of the issues - from space.

Bahahahhaa niiiiiice

[ScottO1992]

Luke, save me a seat next to you if a miracle happens and we make the ECAC in AC, NJ

Fire George Roll! sounds just like Let's Go Tech! on cowbell.

[zekebud]

Winning will demonstrate Collins' commitment to the program - nothing more / nothing less.

I currently stand in the ambivalent camp on the Roll concerns (which will clearly get me roasted by either side), but it would seem to me that Tony Collins' commitment is to the whole of Clarkson University. It is obvious by our presence on this board that hockey has been a meaningful element of our Clarkson days. But is it the defining thing? Is it the one thing that should put Clarkson on the map?

I don't think it should. Hockey is certainly a great local draw and it's a nice way to hear Clarkson in the occasional sports report. But which would be more a problem, the loss of academics at Clarkson or the loss of sports?

While I agree the the administration should be interested in Clarkson athletic success, that should always come after the growth and improvement of the University. I firmly believe that President Collins is currently in that boat, and thus he's an (as-of-now) successful president. Both the quality and quantity of incoming students and faculty reflects well on the current state of affairs.

I can understand calls for Roll to go - the arguments have been clearly made. But calling for the heads of administrators all the way up removes some of the Roll-firing validity. Instead where I would have likely agreed I view a reckless reaction to something that is "only" sports-based. Call for Roll, but don't throw the school out too.

[ScottO1992]

I never questioned Collins' commitment to providing a better education or improving the university, I do question his support of the hockey program, and that support can be measured by the team's record on his watch.

I was curious to learn more about his efforts, initiatives and what he had to say, but unfortunately the Clarkson website shows his last "President's Report" is from way back in 2009. He must be tied up decorating that big $2 million+ house they built for him with trustee handouts.

[ScottO1992]

which will clearly get me roasted by either side

Zeke you've been a consistent/positive/passionate supporter that has never taken any side, nor been critical - you're the last person that deserves to be roasted (other than maybe VicB)

Me on the other hand - ready for all incoming arrows, knives, bullets, fists and missles!

[Bill]

I never questioned Collins' commitment to providing a better education or improving the university, I do question his support of the hockey program, and that support can be measured by the team's record on his watch.

I was curious to learn more about his efforts, initiatives and what he had to say, but unfortunately the Clarkson website shows his last "President's Report" is from way back in 2009. He must be tied up decorating that big $2 million+ house they built for him with trustee handouts.
The Collins attend all home games I have been to, the Trustees pay for the band to attend away most games and the administration has been in strong support of the hockey team whenever I have spoken with them (as opposite some former members of the administration) and understand the importance of hockey to the university. Further, the staff had one fairly weak recruiting year (now seniors - development wise) and got a pretty bad draw last year with the stat rape thing, which decimated that class (now sophs).
Throw in a few injuries to key players, which prevented fielding a full team for several games last year, and took out some higher skilled players this year and the results therefrom were predictable. I guess you can blame whomever you want, but sometimes you just have to hang in there and do the best you can, which from the looks of the next two recruiting classes, may portend some better success in the near future. Take a look at Denver and Miami this year, and see what can happen to two teams who are coached by outstanding coaches (voted coach(es) of the year a few times) and tell me that we should dump the coaches of all unsuccessful teams over 1-2 years - I don't think so.

[FireKnight]

I have nothing but great things to say about President Collins. He is supportive of academics as well of athletics but most of all he's there for the students. He is also very supportive of the alumni and not just the ones who support the endowment.

[Goldie Knight]

Monday, February 21, 2011 9 AM

Since Cheel Arena opened in October of 1991, we have been involved with Clarkson hockey, originally as avid fans and later as members of the Board of Directors of the Booster Club. Having known three Clarkson Presidents, Richard Gallagher, Denny Brown, and Tony Collins, there is absolutely no question that President Collins and his lovely wife have been most supportive of all Clarkson Athletics. Whenever they are in Potsdam, Tony and his wife are most generally found attending both the men's and the women's hockey games. They also attend other athletic events. At the post-game hockey gatherings in the Barben Rooms, Tony often addresses those in attendance with encouraging words and positive comments about the team. His words are an inspiration to those who hear them. Tony and his wife interact with all the fans, and they know the Golden Knights and their parents personally, as well as the Pep Band members.

It goes without question that President and Mrs. Collins are caring, thoughtful, and absolutely wonderful people. I dare say that our thoughts are shared by everyone who has had the privilege of knowing these fine people. I believe that Tony Collins was a faculty member for many years prior to his selection as President of Clarkson University. He was the unanimous selection to be Clarkson's President.

As to the comments made about building/decorating the President's residence on campus, I believe that most, if not all, of the University Trustees are quite well off financially. It seems logical that they would make large tax-free donations to a university, near and dear to their hearts. It is my understanding that these donations were used to construct and furnish the President's home. In addition, many Clarkson alumni and friends of the University make generous annual contributions, some of which money is desiginated to the hockey program. The President's house will be there on campus forever, and it is common for each university to provide housing for its president. The entire downstairs of the house is set up for hosting and entertaining guests of Clarkson University. The personal living accommodations are located upstairs.

In closing, I was under the impression that all Clarkson alums receive several magazines from the University during each year. President Collins has written articles in all of these issues. We always look forward to receiving this magazine to be better informed of all the new happenings at Clarkson.

We are not fair-weather hockey fans, because we choose to support the Golden Knights every season, during the good years and the not so good ones. Yes, we feel terrible about each game that Clarkson loses, but we have been here cheering for the past 19 years for our favorite team.

KNOW NO LIMITS, CLARKSON GOLDEN KNIGHTS.

[ecacwatcher]

I was at Walker for every game and no one booed York in 73-74....like no one is booing Roll in 2011;

I was very impressed with Roll's post game interview and I would give him some room to right the ship....

I just cannot understand why he does not go with a different net minder.....not that Karp is playing poorly but this is Hockey 101 when a team is going badly???

Coch Al knew this!

Karpowich will play just about every game until he graduates. Looks like Antoni is the heir apparent as the next four-year starter if he comes in 2012.

[ScottO1992]

Goldie, thanks for your comments, I'm sure Pres. Collins and family are great people, and I'm hoping he'll make the right moves in regards to the direction of our program once the season ends.

If we could only extract your enthusiasm and passion and bottle it for players to drink during practice and games, then we'd probably be all in here posting about how we are defending back-to-back-to-back national championships.

A lot harder to sit and watch the games in person and lose than listening to the radio feed or reading the game summary the next day. Hope you get to see more W's than L's next season.

[Muskieman]

As a longtime fan of the other NC team (42 years), I expect to get blasted by some for voicing my opinion on THIS thread. Joe Marsh has been the Head Coach at SLU since the '85-'86 season and has had more than a few lousy seasons record-wise (including this one) and not ONCE, to my knowledge, has anybody who roots for the "SLUZERS" criticized Joe Marsh -- verbally, in writing, or otherwise.

Those who are criticizing George Roll here need to re-assess their priorities. He is a widely-respected coach, and a person I've not yet met but admire and respect from afar. Yes, winning is great, but there are far more important things in life. So, I submit to those who are criticizing Coach Roll that you are spoiled fans. If winning is that important to you, you are missing the boat on what really matters.

Go ahead, fire away at me (my name is below) if you wish.

Brian M. Henry
SLU '76

[sdudar]

As a longtime fan of the other NC team (42 years), I expect to get blasted by some for voicing my opinion on THIS thread. Joe Marsh has been the Head Coach at SLU since the '85-'86 season and has had more than a few lousy seasons record-wise (including this one) and not ONCE, to my knowledge, has anybody who roots for the "SLUZERS" criticized Joe Marsh -- verbally, in writing, or otherwise.

Those who are criticizing George Roll here need to re-assess their priorities. He is a widely-respected coach, and a person I've not yet met but admire and respect from afar. Yes, winning is great, but there are far more important things in life. So, I submit to those who are criticizing Coach Roll that you are spoiled fans. If winning is that important to you, you are missing the boat on what really matters.

Go ahead, fire away at me (my name is below) if you wish.

Brian M. Henry
SLU '76

My wife and a daughter are SLU Alums and I have followed the Joe Marsh teams over the years and Marsh never lost control his team the way Roll has over the last few years- my opinion as CCT Grad......

March toke the bullet for the last SLU lost against Brown, his teams never quit, no one on his team is playing or being supported for pro contracts, etc.

PS? Who was in goal for Princeton last Sunday?

[daredevilcu]

As a longtime fan of the other NC team (42 years), I expect to get blasted by some for voicing my opinion on THIS thread. Joe Marsh has been the Head Coach at SLU since the '85-'86 season and has had more than a few lousy seasons record-wise (including this one) and not ONCE, to my knowledge, has anybody who roots for the "SLUZERS" criticized Joe Marsh -- verbally, in writing, or otherwise.

Those who are criticizing George Roll here need to re-assess their priorities. He is a widely-respected coach, and a person I've not yet met but admire and respect from afar. Yes, winning is great, but there are far more important things in life. So, I submit to those who are criticizing Coach Roll that you are spoiled fans. If winning is that important to you, you are missing the boat on what really matters.

Go ahead, fire away at me (my name is below) if you wish.

Brian M. Henry
SLU '76

If there was ever a year for SLU to start bringing out the torches and pitchforks, I would say this would be the season. Joe's health has not allowed him to be as involved with the team as a D1 coach would typically need to be and that is extremely unfortunate. Circumstances out of his control are affecting his ability to do his job, and that is terrible, but not seeing a head coach behind the bench for a good chunk of games is also something that can get people riled up; especially during a long string of seasons without an ECAC title of any kind (last one, 2001?). Frankly, I'm surprised nobody has said anything about this in the SLU camp.

[FireKnight]

Muskie,

I think the difference is in the effort, especially last year. Yes, you're always going to have the stray cat who is going to call for a Clarkson coach's head every time we lose but they can be tuned out. The reason why there are some of us who are lukewarm on Roll (and I'm currently planted firmly on the fence) is that the players have very often looked unprepared or rolled over and died on the ice.

I've been watching our brothers in Larry-land since 1992. The one thing I can say about Coach Marsh and his teams is that he does more with less 'talent' than Clarkson has every year. Even when they weren't that good, they'd pull off big wins, and they would play at an effort level that the opponents always would say "you know you've played at SLU because they beat the tar out of you for 60 minutes".

I have the utmost respect for Coach Marsh. I just don't see that, at this point, Roll gets that sort of respect or production out of his players. Part of that may be due to a function of the players themselves, but some of the inexplicable lousy efforts have got me wondering if the "change" people aren't onto something.


As a longtime fan of the other NC team (42 years), I expect to get blasted by some for voicing my opinion on THIS thread. Joe Marsh has been the Head Coach at SLU since the '85-'86 season and has had more than a few lousy seasons record-wise (including this one) and not ONCE, to my knowledge, has anybody who roots for the "SLUZERS" criticized Joe Marsh -- verbally, in writing, or otherwise.

Those who are criticizing George Roll here need to re-assess their priorities. He is a widely-respected coach, and a person I've not yet met but admire and respect from afar. Yes, winning is great, but there are far more important things in life. So, I submit to those who are criticizing Coach Roll that you are spoiled fans. If winning is that important to you, you are missing the boat on what really matters.

Go ahead, fire away at me (my name is below) if you wish.

Brian M. Henry
SLU '76

[Bill]

As a longtime fan of the other NC team (42 years), I expect to get blasted by some for voicing my opinion on THIS thread. Joe Marsh has been the Head Coach at SLU since the '85-'86 season and has had more than a few lousy seasons record-wise (including this one) and not ONCE, to my knowledge, has anybody who roots for the "SLUZERS" criticized Joe Marsh -- verbally, in writing, or otherwise.

Those who are criticizing George Roll here need to re-assess their priorities. He is a widely-respected coach, and a person I've not yet met but admire and respect from afar. Yes, winning is great, but there are far more important things in life. So, I submit to those who are criticizing Coach Roll that you are spoiled fans. If winning is that important to you, you are missing the boat on what really matters.

Go ahead, fire away at me (my name is below) if you wish.

Brian M. Henry
SLU '76
Brian, I absolutely agree with you. That said, St. Lawrence has had a long history of developing outstanding players on their teams over the years, from Terry Slater. Ron Mason, Steve, Danny Laperierre, Ray Shero, and on and on. That's why many of the hockey families have sent their sons and relatives there - to learn the hard work it takes in hockey and life to be a success in whatever they chose to do. I have had nothing but admiration for the St. Lawrence coaches going back many years. Don't get me wrong either - I still pull hard for Clarkson, where we have had many fine coaches come through over the years, from Lenny to Jerry....... and now to George, who I admire, and judged none of them on success or failure on the ice over a short period of time, but more on their helping with the development of all around successful men over time.
Bill, CCT '63
BTW, I hope Joe is recovering well and is soon back to 100% with his latest physical difficulties. Dean (he was down here last weekend) spoke with him a while back and said he is doing much better.

[ScottO1992]

Yes, you're always going to have the stray cat who is going to call for a Clarkson coach's head every time we lose but they can be tuned out.

Some of us choose to 'defy convention' - others apparently are just sheep in the flock.

Over 1,300 views on this thread so far, everyone's doing a great job of tuning it out :)

[Muskieman]

Muskie,

I think the difference is in the effort, especially last year. Yes, you're always going to have the stray cat who is going to call for a Clarkson coach's head every time we lose but they can be tuned out. The reason why there are some of us who are lukewarm on Roll (and I'm currently planted firmly on the fence) is that the players have very often looked unprepared or rolled over and died on the ice.

I've been watching our brothers in Larry-land since 1992. The one thing I can say about Coach Marsh and his teams is that he does more with less 'talent' than Clarkson has every year. Even when they weren't that good, they'd pull off big wins, and they would play at an effort level that the opponents always would say "you know you've played at SLU because they beat the tar out of you for 60 minutes".

I have the utmost respect for Coach Marsh. I just don't see that, at this point, Roll gets that sort of respect or production out of his players. Part of that may be due to a function of the players themselves, but some of the inexplicable lousy efforts have got me wondering if the "change" people aren't onto something.

Well, 'talent' aside, Joe is 0-3 against CCT this season. It could very well be 0-5 if we meet at Cheel in the playoffs. I'd much rather play at Q'Pac as SLU has NEVER won a playoff game in Potsdam (there have been a few ties). I hope to meet some of you in Cheel if that's where SLU plays - have already met JoeCCT and VicB and was very impressed with both who are great guys.

For those criticizing Coach Roll, last year shouldn't be counted. You guys had more injuries in one year than any hockey team I can ever remember. And, SLU was very lucky to win that playoff series in Canton. As for this season, you've also had injuries (I know, all teams have them), but losing Ben Sexton for most of this season was a huge blow. And, now Scott Freeman is injured.

Joe is feeling much better. It was great to have him behind the bench for the recent 5-game homestand. It wasn't the same going to games (I've been to our last-11) and not having Joe behind the bench for some of them. My record so far is 5-9-1 for SLU games attended this season, including 2 of the 3 losses to you guys. Perhaps I should stay home or the "Larries" are doomed.

[RSTuthill]

I have nothing but great things to say about President Collins. He is supportive of academics as well of athletics but most of all he's there for the students. He is also very supportive of the alumni and not just the ones who support the endowment.
Hear, hear!!

Let's keep Dr. Collins out of this thread. He's been great for Clarkson.

[Brad L. Lucas]

Hear, hear!!

Let's keep Dr. Collins out of this thread. He's been great for Clarkson.

I agree, Dr. Collins had something to do with bringing in of "The Hockey Chair", which ,correct me if I am wrong, is an endowment for the Coaches position at Clarkson.

He is a huge supporter of Clarkson Hockey and Clarkson U an has had a tremendous influence on both, and anybody who thinks differently is wrong

I for one, contrary to public opinion, like George Roll, I think he knows more about hockey, then anybody on this forum. I think he needs a change more then his team does, for some reason the team has not responded to his message. We have 6 or 7 NHL DRAFT CHOICES, on this team and their names are not Freeman,Defazio, Morley,or McPhearson. Union has no scholarships or draft choices. We clearly on paper have one of the best teams in the ECAC A change most times benefits both parties, just ask that great coach at BC named York, or the future NHL Coach named Morris. :

[Goldie Knight]

Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:15 PM

I thought I remembered hearing Bob Ahlfeld mention that Colgate has a minimum of five draft choices....probably seven or eight.....and they are currently in eleventh place. Sadly, if they had not done so well against the Golden Knights this season, they would be in last place in the ECAC standings.

It would be interesting to identify all those original ECAC draft choices to see what their actual future hockey destination is after graduation.

[Muskieman]

I agree, Dr. Collins had something to do with bringing in of "The Hockey Chair", which ,correct me if I am wrong, is an endowment for the Coaches position at Clarkson.

He is a huge supporter of Clarkson Hockey and Clarkson U an has had a tremendous influence on both, and anybody who thinks differently is wrong

I for one, contrary to public opinion, like George Roll, I think he knows more about hockey, then anybody on this forum. I think he needs a change more then his team does, for some reason the team has not responded to his message. We have 6 or 7 NHL DRAFT CHOICES, on this team and their names are not Freeman,Defazio, Morley,or McPhearson. Union has no scholarships or draft choices. We clearly on paper have one of the best teams in the ECAC A change most times benefits both parties, just ask that great coach at BC named York, or the future NHL Coach named Morris. :

Please don't be deceived and think that Union doesn't have scholarships. I understand that about 5 years ago Union adopted a policy where individuals from any foreign country who were academically well-qualified could get a "free ride." Their current roster has 17 Canadians and 11 Americans on it. I bet most of the 17 from Canada got a "free ride." And, Union has become a real force to reckon with of late. It's no coincidence in my opinion. Those 40%'ers (no longer) are pretty tricky.

[daredevilcu]

Yeah, but that's the same with the Ivies too. They don't have athletic scholarships, but you can bet anyone on those teams worth anything in the classroom are getting at least their fair share or more of academic scholarships.

[Goldie Knight]

Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:30 AM

As I had initially made a mistake in mentioning the number of draft picks that Colgate has, I decided to investigate a bit further regarding ECAC NHL draft picks. From college hockey stats, I discovered the following information regarding current draft picks.

BROWN...........NONE LISTED
CLARKSON....6
COLGATE......6
CORNELL......4
DARTMOUTH.4
HARVARD.....4
PRINCETON..1
QUINNIPIAC.2
RPI.............3
ST. LAWRENCE...NONE LISTED
UNION..............NONE LISTED
YALE..........3

So, if anyone from St. Lawrence can confirm that information, please post it on this forum. Thank you.

Looking forward to this coming weekend with great expectations, we send best wishes to the Golden Knights in their endeavor to earn home-ice advantage for the first round of the ECAC playoffs. Good luck, guys.

[sdudar]

Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:30 AM

As I had initially made a mistake in mentioning the nustate of the teammber of draft picks that Colgate has, I decided to investigate a bit further regarding ECAC NHL draft picks. From college hockey stats, I discovered the following information regarding current draft picks.

BROWN...........NONE LISTED
CLARKSON....6
COLGATE......6
CORNELL......4
DARTMOUTH.4
HARVARD.....4
PRINCETON..1
QUINNIPIAC.2
RPI.............3
ST. LAWRENCE...NONE LISTED
UNION..............NONE LISTED
YALE..........3

So, if anyone from St. Lawrence can confirm that information, please post it on this forum. Thank you.

Looking forward to this coming weekend with great expectations, we send best wishes to the Golden Knights in their endeavor to earn home-ice advantage for the first round of the ECAC playoffs. Good luck, guys.






Look at Roll's take and body language on team and this weekend.......GEEZ I think we are in big trouble

[sdudar]

Look at Roll's take and body language on team and this weekend.......GEEZ I think we are in big trouble

I was hoping I WAS WRONG.......

[ScottO1992]

I hear Roll is interviewing with the Washington Generals. They're looking for someone with proven experience coaching green & gold losses.

[daredevilcu]

I hear Roll is interviewing with the Washington Generals. They're looking for someone with proven experience coaching green & gold losses.

Ba-zing. That one was below the belt, try to keep the gloves up!

[ScottO1992]

Even I was second-guessing whether to post, but I carefully wrote it to only be critical of Roll himself, not the players. Not sure the message is any worse than other posts, just probably hurts more after so many consecutive losses.

Funny how all the Roll supporters have vanished, where's the unconditional love? For better or worse? I am sensing a strain in their relationship. Poor George, he can't even count on his friends these days.

[mk5188]

Even I was second-guessing whether to post, but I carefully wrote it to only be critical of Roll himself, not the players. Not sure the message is any worse than other posts, just probably hurts more after so many consecutive losses.

Funny how all the Roll supporters have vanished, where's the unconditional love? For better or worse? I am sensing a strain in their relationship. Poor George, he can't even count on his friends these days.

It's called were tired of your constant attacks on our coach is why the supporters have "vanished". We can only say the same thing so many times before we get sick of it.

[sdudar]

Even I was second-guessing whether to post, but I carefully wrote it to only be critical of Roll himself, not the players. Not sure the message is any worse than other posts, just probably hurts more after so many consecutive losses.

Funny how all the Roll supporters have vanished, where's the unconditional love? For better or worse? I am sensing a strain in their relationship. Poor George, he can't even count on his friends these days.




First to Dr. Collins.....you should tell Roll he will be the CU Head Coach for the next 4 years. I have an important role as an Engineer in a 18 billion dollar capital program for a major city...In my role, I have many dealings with CCT Grads as they play important roles with the many engineering firms and Contractors who work for us.....a few Months ago I noticed that a really big shot in my City liked all the CCT Grads that came before us......and this big shot was rude to many others.....when I gave her the list of the people she liked and told her that they all went to CU like myself.....I asked her why?......Her answer was that they were all hard working, honest, and Unassuming.... Roll is hard working, honest & unassuming ....


Maybe if Roll tells his team he is going no where... this they will stop them from playing so tight....no one can play Hockey if they are tight......I stayed at the Canadian Olympic house in 80 and many Hockey gurus told me that was the secret of Miracle...

[ScottO1992]

Roll is hard working, honest & unassuming ....

Please list any active NCAA hockey coaches that aren't.

[Rich66]

It's called were tired of your constant attacks on our coach is why the supporters have "vanished". We can only say the same thing so many times before we get sick of it.

I'm sick and tired of it too!!!!!!!!!!!

[ScottO1992]

OK, point taken - the tribe has spoken.

We're all passionate in our opinions and ultimately have the same end goal.

[Brad L. Lucas]

OK, point taken - the tribe has spoken.

We're all passionate in our opinions and ultimately have the same end goal.

Greg Conroy

[joecct]

Greg ConroyThere are a lot of Conroys, but Greg never played for Clarkson.

Craig -- and I doubt he's leaving Calgary any time soon.

[Goldie Knight]

Friday, March 4, 2011

All my hockey statistical information is not where I am now. I have a vague remembrance of Craig's father playing hockey, but I can't recall his name or if he ever played for the Golden Knights, but I believe he did. Does anyone remember?

CRUSH THE CRIMSON TWICE....LET'S GO TECHERS!

[Rich66]

Craig's dad is Mike Conroy who played for Tech in the early 70's and then settled in Potsdam.

[NChockeyfan17]

Craig's dad is Mike Conroy who played for Tech in the early 70's and then settled in Potsdam.
Here is some nickel knowledge for you. Mike Conroy was in the movie Slapshot. He was an extra, not sure what team he was on. But I do know he was not a stunt double for one of the Hanson Brothers. :)

[NChockeyfan17]

Mike was in the movie Slapshot. Not sure where in the movie he is, but I was told that he was in it.

[joecct]

Mike was in the movie Slapshot. Not sure where in the movie he is, but I was told that he was in it.Saints, that you??

[NChockeyfan17]

Saints, that you??

Huh?!?! I am sorry, I realize I am new here but Saints? I don't get it....

[joecct]

Huh?!?! I am sorry, I realize I am new here but Saints? I don't get it....

There is a poster from the NC and Potsdam State on USCHO known as Saints17. Just thought you and he might be one in the same.

[NChockeyfan17]

Ok, I was a bit confused about that. Thanks for the clarification.

[vtcorvette]

[QUOTE=sdudar;31847]I was at Walker for every game and no one booed York in 73-74....like no one is booing Roll in 2011;

Not true - I was also at every game at Walker that season, and the crowd routinely chanted "Goodbye Jerry." I was pretty new to the world of college hockey at the time, but I was quite perplexed what their yank with him was.

Gary '77

[joecct]

[QUOTE=sdudar;31847]I was at Walker for every game and no one booed York in 73-74....like no one is booing Roll in 2011;

Not true - I was also at every game at Walker that season, and the crowd routinely chanted "Goodbye Jerry." I was pretty new to the world of college hockey at the time, but I was quite perplexed what their yank with him was.

Gary '77Gary - same class.
I think b/c in 1970 we lost in the national final and missing the playoffs was unheard of????

[RSTuthill]

Doesn't look like anything is going to happen this year. MacDonald and Army are out at Lowell and Providence respectively already. If something was going to happen at Clarkson it would have happened by now.

[joecct]

Doesn't look like anything is going to happen this year. MacDonald and Army are out at Lowell and Providence respectively already. If something was going to happen at Clarkson it would have happened by now.Add Jamie Russell (Michigan Tech) to the mix.

Current vacancies
<strike>Michigan State (vice Comley)</strike> - Anastos?!?!!?!?
Penn State (new) - ??/BTHC
Providence (vice Army) - HEA
Mass-Lowell (vice MacDonald) - HEA
Michigan Tech (vice Russell) - WCHA

[RSTuthill]

That's a lotta vacancies. And anyone who thinks he's got a shot for Penn State is going to hold off with the exception of the Michigan State job.

[dave techer]

Noticed a flyer on the web site that the Clarkson hockey camp is back this summer, after the fiasco year before last. Am I reading too much into it that the names of the current (well, as of today) Clarkson coaching staff are not included on the flyer?

[Cap]

Noticed a flyer on the web site that the Clarkson hockey camp is back this summer, after the fiasco year before last. Am I reading too much into it that the names of the current (well, as of today) Clarkson coaching staff are not included on the flyer?

Yes .............

[NChockeyfan17]

Yes .............
Being a "glass is half full" kind of guy, I see this as Coach Roll will be back. I can't imagine a school posting flyers for a hockey school and trying to find a new Head Coach at the same time. JMO....

[vicb]

Appert gets a 7 year extension at RPI. WOW

[FireKnight]

Appert gets a 7 year extension at RPI. WOW

RPI has a president who is very interested in advancing their athletic programs. Appert is a very good coach that has opened up some recruiting avenues that RPI hasn't seen in years. Great move for their program.

[dave techer]

OK, now that Merrimack's season is over, somebody get on the phone to Phil and make him an office he can't refuse.

[puckfan]

Not far fetch... Alumni Philippe or Phil Roy is having a lot of success as a young coach. He is part of the staff that rebuild Merrimack-2010 Coaching staff of the year. This year they finish 4th in Hockey East, went to the league Finals (at the Garden), and got 2nd seed in NCAA regionals at Verizon's (Morris home rink in AHL). He would bring new blood...

[Drew]

Not far fetch... Alumni Philippe or Phil Roy is having a lot of success as a young coach. He is part of the staff that rebuild Merrimack-2010 Coaching staff of the year. This year they finish 4th in Hockey East, went to the league Finals (at the Garden), and got 2nd seed in NCAA regionals at Verizon's (Morris home rink in AHL). He would bring new blood...

He will face challenges as well, Merrimack recruits from a different pool than a Clarkson staff recruits from, all you need is a crayon to get into the place.

[ndlax]

forgot to mention he only lasted one year as HEAD COACH at Neuman:confused:

[joecct]

forgot to mention he only lasted one year as HEAD COACH at Neuman:confused:D-III head vs. HEA Assistant. If your goal is a D-I head coach job, you want the D-I assistantship on the resume, plus a solid recruiting track record.

Look, stop this now. George is still the head coach. IF the administration pulls the trigger, then we can talk.

If you want to continue to talk about it, go over to USCHO. There are countless "FIRE (somebody)" threads over there. But here, sorry. We don't talk divorce in front of the family.

[vicb]

If you want to continue to talk about it, go over to USCHO. There are countless "FIRE (somebody)" threads over there. But here, sorry. We don't talk divorce in front of the family.

Here Here LGT

[chuck]

Look, stop this now. George is still the head coach. IF the administration pulls the trigger, then we can talk.

If you want to continue to talk about it, go over to USCHO. There are countless "FIRE (somebody)" threads over there. But here, sorry. We don't talk divorce in front of the family.


Here Here LGT

I hate to contradict two of the longest tenured and most respected posters on this board, but really this is a discussion forum and if people want to talk about it, they have every right to, unless Scott finds it libelous or inflammatory. I've pretty much stayed away from this topic, but it's a little pet peeve of mine when we're told what we're allowed to talk about. There are many discussions on here that I'm not interested in, so I just ignore the thread.

:lgt:

[scottcomstock]

In everything having to do with Clarkson hockey, everyone has an opinion that they're entitled to. As long as they can be debated intelligently & civilly, they're welcome here. I will not close threads simply because they touch on controversial subjects or unpopular opinions, or don't follow the Clarkson Athletics "party line". You don't see it on USCHO, and you won't see it here unless it degenerates.

Let's keep things in perspective: at the end of the day, the decision is ultimately President Collins' and/or Steve Yianoukos', and nothing said here, by me, ScottO1992, or anyone else, is going to change that.

[vicb]

I hate to contradict two of the longest tenured and most respected posters on this board, but really this is a discussion forum and if people want to talk about it, they have every right to, unless Scott finds it libelous or inflammatory. I've pretty much stayed away from this topic, but it's a little pet peeve of mine when we're told what we're allowed to talk about. There are many discussions on here that I'm not interested in, so I just ignore the thread.

:lgt:

Here Here LGT

[vicb]

In everything having to do with Clarkson hockey, everyone has an opinion that they're entitled to. As long as they can be debated intelligently & civilly, they're welcome here. I will not close threads simply because they touch on controversial subjects or unpopular opinions, or don't follow the Clarkson Athletics "party line". You don't see it on USCHO, and you won't see it here unless it degenerates.

Let's keep things in perspective: at the end of the day, the decision is ultimately President Collins' and/or Steve Yianoukos', and nothing said here, by me, ScottO1992, or anyone else, is going to change that.

Here Here LGT

[mk5188]

In everything having to do with Clarkson hockey, everyone has an opinion that they're entitled to. As long as they can be debated intelligently & civilly, they're welcome here. I will not close threads simply because they touch on controversial subjects or unpopular opinions, or don't follow the Clarkson Athletics "party line". You don't see it on USCHO, and you won't see it here unless it degenerates.

Let's keep things in perspective: at the end of the day, the decision is ultimately President Collins' and/or Steve Yianoukos', and nothing said here, by me, ScottO1992, or anyone else, is going to change that.

Agree with your statement. ScottO seems to be one of the fair-weather fans. Goes quiet on here whenever the team is dong well, and starts a clamor every time they are not. That's his option, I don't agree with it, but he has every right to.

Being said, if Roll were being let go, he would have been already. We will have at least one more year of Roll

[ScottO1992]

ScottO seems to be one of the fair-weather fans.

What's left to say? I believe I have made my opinions quiet clear. I certainly didn't go quiet because we were doing well, because we weren't. Last I recall we lost the final 2 games at home to Harvard, no?

If you think I need to keep posting because it livens up the board, I'd be happy to. Does get boring with all of you slapping each other on the ass over what a great season Roll had.

[vicb]

What's left to say? I believe I have made my opinions quiet clear. I certainly didn't go quiet because we were doing well, because we weren't. Last I recall we lost the final 2 games at home to Harvard, no?

If you think I need to keep posting because it livens up the board, I'd be happy to. Does get boring with all of you slapping each other on the ass over what a great season Roll had.

Here Here LGT

[dave techer]

[QUOTE=ScottO1992;32490]What's left to say? I believe I have made my opinions quiet clear. I certainly didn't go quiet because we were doing well, because we weren't. Last I recall we lost the final 2 games at home to Harvard, no?

Not to mention going 5-14 in the 2011 portion of the schedule. Brutal.

[mk5188]

What's left to say? I believe I have made my opinions quiet clear. I certainly didn't go quiet because we were doing well, because we weren't. Last I recall we lost the final 2 games at home to Harvard, no?

If you think I need to keep posting because it livens up the board, I'd be happy to. Does get boring with all of you slapping each other on the ass over what a great season Roll had.

Hey, don't get me wrong, it could have been a lot better of a season, especially with the way we started. After the debacle of 2009-10, we were a very young team. However, if he doesn't make it to AC next year, he should be gone.

What I was referring to was the lack of comments in the 06-07 and 07-08 seasons, when the team was doing well

[vicb]

Hey, don't get me wrong, it could have been a lot better of a season, especially with the way we started. After the debacle of 2009-10, we were a very young team. However, if he doesn't make it to AC next year, he should be gone.


With what we have coming back next year to me Atlantic City is gonna be a stretch. Just MHO. I would rather discuss next year on the 2011-2012 thread so I will give my analysis over there. LGT

[ScottO1992]

What I was referring to was the lack of comments in the 06-07 and 07-08 seasons, when the team was doing well

Sounds like you miss me. The season is over - go find some other hobbies.

[mk5188]

Sounds like you miss me. The season is over - go find some other hobbies.

No, I wish that you had stayed like you did during those years, and not commenting on here. And thank god baseball season has started so I don't have to listen to you as much one here, and have a distraction until the start of the next hockey season

[ScottO1992]

Never wake a sleeping bear.