Vs. Cornell

[tbch13]

I was at the game last night and the referring was absolutly terrible....Cook from Cornell should have been called about 6 different times for holding or high sticking, but he was never called. Also, I heard that they DQ's to O'F and Poaspt were going to be reviewed by the ECAC commissioner, but the tape that was recording the game ended with just over a minute left to go....THAT IS ABSOLUTLY UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

The knights played extremely well in the 1st and 2nd period, in order for us to believe that they were two comparable teams on the ice especially since the amount of penalties that should have been called on Cornell.....the knights kept their cool and until the end of the 3rd, played well. I can understand why they lost it at the end of the 3rd because the Clarkson fans were losing it as well...it was heartbreaking to watch.
Also, cornell's fans were wild last night, (like always), it is pretty neat to see how the ENTIRE ARENA gets into it....I sat near young kids and they were even screaming. However, I don't really like when it goes too far, there was a bunch of times when some of the townies started swearing and critizing to the extent that i was embarassed to be around them....that is going too far.

Anyways, we will have to wait and see if O'F and Poapst actually get kicked out for 1 (or 2 games for O'Flaherty) because it needs to be reviewed and hopefully Cornell had another tape that actually let the game finish without cutting out.

Also, we lost Randy Jones to a concussion and I don't know if he will be back this weekend......hopefully.....

[vicb]

Your account pretty much matches up with the play by play from Bob. Sounds like Cornell got a way with an awful lot of stuff but that's no excuse for losing your cool at the end of the a game that you've lost. Matt and Kevin should have know better and as Captain and Assistant showed a bit more composure. Hope that somehow the league will review what went on and may be overturn the referees decision. However I will be VERY SURPRISED if that occurs. To get yourself DQ'd and then lose playing in 1 or 2 of the games next weekend with the stakes for home ice is inexecusible.

[Brett Gobe]

Kotyra has no control of any hockey game I have seen him ref. Both teams got away with murder and when they made a small penalty it was called. The game was going to end in a fight, because nothing was called to let the players know that it was unexcusable. Cornell's first goal was scored right after Campana was thrown to the ice in an obvious interference penalty. Morris was livid and rightfully so. Cornell is a big team that clutches and grabs with the best of them. Clarkson is small and fast but on small ice they aren't going to beat a team that big. I have a feeling we'll see Cornell again on the Big Ice in Placid. Should be a good game.

[tbch13]

One other thing that I was thinking about was the fact that O'Flaherty didn't even throw a punch, that is probably why Morris was in such an uproar, THAT was what I didn't understand....
If he was going to get a game misconduct, then he should have at least thrown a punch, it just doesn't make sense to me.

[Todd '86]

Originally posted by tbch13
One other thing that I was thinking about was the fact that O'Flaherty didn't even throw a punch, that is probably why Morris was in such an uproar, THAT was what I didn't understand....
If he was going to get a game misconduct, then he should have at least thrown a punch, it just doesn't make sense to me.

I was at the game last night too, tho because of where I was sitting I couldn't see much of the "fight" at the end of the game. In 21 years of watching college hockey, I've never seen a fighting major called -- last night there were three. If what you say is correct, then how the H-E-double-hockey-sticks do you get a fighting major without fighting?

Morris made a bee line for Kotyra, with his hands in his pockets in what looked like a bid for some self-control (it worked). Kotyra stood and took it, but I've never seen one of those conferences result in anything. It may only serve to make things tougher Tech down the road.

As usual, it was another close and well played game. I thought Walsh was pulled a bit early. But after the Cornell ENG and despite the Cornell fans "Frustrated" taunt afterwards, it seemed to me that the Red were the ones that were frustrated that Tech didn't just roll over, but instead pressure the Red's net. Just before the melee, Paopst and a Cornell defender were dishing out some pretty vicous checks in front of the net. Then the sticks came up, and you know the rest. It was a really stupid end to an otherwise really well played game (despite the Cornell c&g).

Hey, Stemmer, I looked for you after the first behind Section O, but no luck.

[Stemmer]

I tried to post my comments earlier about saturday's game but somehow I wasn't "logged in" so it didnt't post. And now, its too late for me to redo it so I'll just comment on Todd's latest post.

Boy, if you wanted to see fighting majors in the ECAC, you should have been around in the early 70s!!!! :D

There were a bunch in a Tech 9-0 rout of Colgate at Clarkson Arena that included a full scale brawl featuring 'Gate's Mike Milbury in '71. And Jim Salfi's RIP teams were always good for a few fights.

Anyway, I agree with Todd. Kotyra was brutal...he missed a lot on both teams, and then in seemingly a late pathetic effort to put his "stamp" on the game long after he had lost control, he calls the DQs! Now I saw that a few cornell fans say that Palahicky was the instigator but from Sec O at Lynah in the first row, I couldn't see the fight well. I do know that our "protest" is that Kevin O'F did not throw a punch and hence did not deserve the DQ. I do wish our guys would show more control and walk away from these scrums...we always seem to get the worst of it this season!

I did clearly see cornell's # 7, Cook, slashing at a Tech player who's # I could not see in front of the net. Was it Poapst or O'Flaherty...I've read both? (Cook got away with a number of infractions during the game...a few right in front of us)...Kotyra looked right at it and did zippo...he should have blown the whistle and sent them both off! A few seconds later the scrum broke out...surprise, surprise!

He also missed Murray's 2 nasty cross checks to the back of a Tech player who was down on all fours in front of the Tech bench earlier in the third period. That could easily have been called an intent to injure penalty...and perhaps any call at all might have prevented the melee later.

My brother, a former D1 and D3 lacrosse ref, and I, were "marveling" Kotyra's lack of calls earlier which predictably led to his losing control of the game. He probably blew the call on the waved off cornell goal, missed a blatant hook/trip on a Tech player coming in alone on Underhill in the second, and called Latulippe for taking town Murray who outweighs Jay by 65 pounds after Murray took a dive. Thats just a sampler!

Most amazing is their refusal to call the crease violation...an offensive player can't enter the goal crease on his own power unless the puck is there first. Both teams did this a number of times in front of me and not a single call. Result? Guys start running the goalies!

On the bright side, Latulippe continues to impress...you gotta love his energy, not to mention his quickness and moves...he turned the big cornell D around a few times, and scored a gorgeous goal to boot!

Todd, I was at the top of Section O about 3 or 4 mins after the first period ended. Got up there, tried to make myself conspicuous...white sweater with "Clarkson" in green on it...and white Tech hockey cap, brown leather jacket. I didn't stop anyone to ask if they were "Todd"... then ran into both Geoff Brown and Patrice Robitaille and chatted a few minutes at the top of "O". Maybe next time, eh? :)

[Stemmer]

By the way, since Steve Hagwell, the ECAC asst commisioner, was at the game last night to present the RS trophy to cornell, the tape was given to him directly. Don't hold your breath waiting for a change of these DQ calls! :rolleyes:

[Chris]

i watched the game on cornells video feed, and also though kotyra was just horrible all game long and especially at the end. palahicky is one dirty player too. i was at the slu(t) game at appleton that kotyra reffed also, and he was horrible there too, but in that game, he called too many penalties rather than too few as it seems the other night. gonna be tough this wknd without o'flaherty both nights and poapst on friday. hopefully the younger guys can step it up. we need home ice!

[Stemmer]

Chris, etal...

I know the cornell folks are going to scream "whining" about this but the fact is that they have gotten away with a lot of clutch and grab stuff the past two seasons. Last season a number of ECAC coaches complained about their style of play. It doesn't show up in the PMs simply because the officials aren't calling those restraining fouls. Kotyra missed a beauty in the second period right in front on a good Tech scoring chance.

It's funny that they're calling Poapst and O'Flaherty "goons" when Palahicky pulls that crap and Baby spent most of the game holding guys in the neutral zone. Add Murray's blatant x checks to the back on a guy who was down on the ice and you can see what led to the late game frustration.

Too bad our guys could not have walked away from the instigator.

[petal]

Sounds like it got pretty ugly over there. Hearing that O'Flaherty and Poapst are thugs is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. Not sure what else to say for this loss. Revenge will be sweet.

[tbch13]

I just wanted to say that I saw Morris talking to the Commissioner after the game as I was walking by, but I also doubt that anything will happen, but who knows.....all I know is that if the ECAC looked over the game tape again, there would have been a lot of different calls that Cornell got away with. To be honest with you, Cook and Baby, I believe got away with numerous different calls. It is unbelievable when they are holding on to Poapst as he is skating through the neutral zone, but no call.
I just don't understand how they can get away with this, and that the ref wasn't more keen on paying attention to the MANY infractions that occurred.

Oh yeah, If any cornell fans read these messages, I am DEFINITLY sure that they would call us whinners, but when you have been watching hockey for the past 20 years, it is extremely frustrating as a fan to watch a game that isn't being properly ref'd, no matter who it is who has the advantage.

One of the problems that I see for friday night is that it is a highly emotional game like SLU or cornell because of last years lost in the Quaterfinals and this year's terrible game in Vermont, when they are so emotional, it is a lot harder to keep her head straight. However, I think that we can beat them, without Poapst and O'Flaherty, this team is not a two-person team, there are MANY other talented players. Good luck on friday knight!

[ursaminor]

I am all for suspending as many Cornell players as possible for next Friday's game against RPI. :D

[Stemmer]

Originally posted by ursaminor
I am all for suspending as many Cornell players as possible for next Friday's game against RPI. :D

Well, cornell easily could have had another guy DQ'd...they were darn lucky Kotyra called them the way he did! :D

[chuck]

Hey let's look at the bright side... Now a ten game winning streak makes us National Champions!:rolleyes: :D