RIP Clarkson: RPI 4 Clarkson 3 OT

[vicb]

Just unbelieveable. Blow a 3-0 lead with 12 min to go in the game. Yale but in reverse. I'm gonna go have a drink. Disgusting.

[Todd '86]

Originally posted by vicb
Disgusting.

To say the least.

Question: I saw on the USCHO board that RPI had 1:43 of PP entering OT. What happened?:mad:

[chuck]

Originally posted by Todd '86


To say the least.

Question: I saw on the USCHO board that RPI had 1:43 of PP entering OT. What happened?:mad:

I've avoided even reading the board because I'm so disgusted!! Not even so much with the team as with the Freaks. I've been to a lot of hockey games and other sporting events and I've never seen such a rude display of classlessness!:mad: I was sitting with my 2 year old son on my lap chanting Let's Go Tech and one of their band members started yelling F***K YOU! to me. I never antagonized them, wasn't even saying RPI SUCKS or anything. Also we have a tradition that we buy one of those little souvenir hockey sticks for my son from whatever arena we go to so we were walking to the concession to buy a stick from them and some blow-hards in the stands starts flinging personal insults directly at me and my son! The signs, chants and comments by the RPI folk were tasteless, classless and lacked creativity. I understand trying to create a hostile environment for the opposing team and fans, and I have a lot of fun with rivlaries and taunting the other team but as far as I'm concerned the RPI Band and Fans really showed what a bunch of classless losers they really are. I've been going to RPI to watch Clarkson for a lotta years now and there's always taunting, chanting and trying to get under each others skin especially with the bands, maybe a bandie can verify this, but it seems that the bands used to take turns in the breaks to let the other play, but everytime Clarkson band started playing RPI would play right over them so noone could hear them.

As far as the game I was sitting in the obstructed view section so I couldn't see things so well, actually the folks watching the sattelite broadcast probably saw more of the game than I did. First you've got to credit the RPI team with a gutsy effort in the 3rd. They stayed in it and pulled it off in the end. Clarkson can never seem to find that killer instict to put a game away. They carried the play (again) throughout the game. Even when RIP was on the PP they couldn't seem to get set up in there zone for very long. And at even strength Clarkson had to give up the zone a couple of times to make a line change, but they just couldn't find that one more goal. I kept telling my wife that we just needed to put this one away we're letting them stay in it too long. Some of the freaks started leaving before RIP's second goal! What were they thinking??

I'd like to blame the officiating... but I can't while I'm irritated with it Clarkson should have put it away long before it became an issue. Throughout the whole game the ref was calling what I call and "even it up" type of game. A couple of times RPI clearly hit after the whistle and Clarkson kept there heads and didn't retaliate, well the ref called nothing. Then on a play where Clarkson did retaliate he'd call double minors. Then when RIP got called with the 5 min. major the ref called a minor on Clarkson evening it up for 2 min. Anyway this is not bad reffing it's just a style that basically says the ref doesn't want penalties to decide the game. Then he put his whistle away at about 8 min. left in the 3rd. There were plenty of possible penalties for both teams in the next 7 min. Now I didn't see the play (obstructed view) that O'F (or was it Poapst) got called for charging with 50 sec (or something) left but it was so oppisite of the way he'd been calling the rest of the game!!!!:mad: I can't believe it I was sure he'd call RPI to even it up once they got into OT but he had a couple of chances and he let them go!! The loss is still Clarkson's fault but he ended up letting penalties decide the game!!

I'm sorry for ranting but my wife is tired of hearing about it and I had to get this off my chest

[RPI 02]

chuck,
Let me point out that I think using the f-word, especially if you say a band member did it, is unacceptable. I honestly did not hear any fellow band cohorts use the f-word but if you say that happened and it was directed to you personally (which I doubt since you weren't the only Clarkson-colors-clad person in attendance) then fine be mad at me too. It certainly wasn't me. I think I am a more level-headed person and I want to set a few things straight. Maybe you found out the hard way what the Freakout! is but basically it is the one time we can fill the Fieldhouse to the rafters. It is our spirit game, so to speak, much like a homecoming game at a D-I football or basketball school. A Clarkson alum in our symphonic ensemble asked me what Freakout! was and I just laughed and said she would find out. Most people paint themselves and wear as much red as possible for a once-a-year, crazy, loud, freaky good time. Many alumni come back from far away just for this game. Many band alumni come back and play too as the stage was overflowing. Which obstructed view section were you in, 11 (like the Clarkson band) or 12 (facing them)? In the third while it was 3-1, I went to go talk with my friends low down in section 12 and there were plenty of Clarkson jerseys around. Nothing was said but I was given this look like "you suck, you can't come up here."

Quote: "...maybe a bandie can verify this, but it seems that the bands used to take turns in the breaks to let the other play, but everytime Clarkson band started playing RPI would play right over them so noone could hear them. "

Yes the bands do rotate breaks since it would stink if you went 200+ miles and not be allowed to play (like SLUt for instance who wouldn't even let us bring our instruments inside). However being the "homecoming", "spirit" game that Freakout is, it's RPI's (and its band's) turn to shine. Therefore, the Clarkson's band managers were notified in advance (when they told our band managers they were coming) that they were only going to get to play one song during the first intermission and none during the second intermission and they must have agreed since they showed up. There were quite a few instances in the first 2 periods especially when our conductor started clapping to get ready to play a cheer after a whistle and Clarkson's band would interrupt. Finally in the third period sometime, we got ready to play and Clarkson started up before we could again, but this time we decided darnit, just play anyway it's our Freakout! So don't twist the truth and say that everytime the Clarkson band played that we interrupted them because that is not the case. Our arena staff were also supposed to let only 25 people play but It sure looked like there were more than that number. We are always put at the slight disadvantage of playing into the glass and pointed at the ice, while visiting bands despite their poor vantage point can more easily fill the arena with their sound since they are high up and actually facing the crowd. They played well as I expected them to. Their "Hit the weight room" chant directed at our smaller stripper (another freakout band tradition don't ask me why we do it, I have no clue) got a thumbs up from me:D
As for the game I really didnt see much either since there were so many people on stage blocking my view. I heard the horn for the third goal and so in shock and amazement, I started my flag-dash around the Fieldhouse.
So if you think I am a classless freak because I go to RPI and am in the band, and you want to take your troubles out on me? I am just trying to be level-headed here and explain some things from a different viewpoint.
For the first 48 minutes we were ****ed that Freakout had to be against Clarkson instead of a more beatable team like Brown or Vermont as in recent years. In my first 3 years here we never beat Clarkson or SLUt at home. But to beat your archrival which you've never beat at home during your senior year, and in such dramatic fashion (the players raised their arms pleading for more noise with the goalie pulled right before the tying goal), well I think you'd agree that it's memories like that which make college sports special. I'm sure rooting for Clarkson you have more good memories than bad ones.

[Maximum RPI]

There are ignorant and tasteless fans every where you go... don't count out the rest of the 5,200 people that were there when you start crying about the handful of people who made your night unpleasant.

How'd Clarkson Blow the 5 minute power play in the third?
I thought for sure we were gone. But what else can you do when you are down but raise the roof with some noise. Thats the FreakOut! for ya. Clarkson was just another victem to one of the biggest college hockey events in the US.

Clarkson Sucks.
Union Swallows.
Let's Go Red!

[koho]

Beating Clarkson must be sweet for the opposition. When you are consistently one the best in the league, you become a target. This is something the RIPs haven't experienced.

Plain and simple, its called "Clarkson Envy".

As a Senior Project Manager at a Fortune 100 company. I've managed many Clarkson and RPI Engineers. The Clarkson folks are a class above their RPI peers, both in terms of technical, managerial, and social skills. Its the same thing with their Hockey Fans.

Enough said!

LGT!!!!!!


"better dead than red (rip and cornell)!!"

[chuck]

RPI 02 I was going to suggest that you email me and we continue our discussion without cluttering up the bouard but I see it's too late for that.

You know what let's just forget the whole thing.

[ursaminor]

Koho, I agree with Chuck's most recent post, but I can't believe that there is a thing called "Clarkson Envy" in a non-hockey sense except perhaps from those at Canton Tech. Maybe the problem is that Clarkson is "consistently one the best in the league" but has never experienced what RPI has in 1954 and 1985. :D :eek:

Yes, beating Clarkson is always sweet -- even tieing them is often quite good. :)

P.S. How can anyone be above one's peers when the word "peers" implies equivalence?

[petal]

ummmm....so, how about them Red Sox?

[Stemmer]

Originally posted by ursaminor
Koho, I agree with Chuck's most recent post, but I can't believe that there is a thing called "Clarkson Envy" in a non-hockey sense except perhaps from those at Canton Tech. Maybe the problem is that Clarkson is "consistently one the best in the league" but has never experienced what RPI has in 1954 and 1985. :D :eek:

Yes, beating Clarkson is always sweet -- even tieing them is often quite good. :)



I dont think the NCAA title has anything to do with it. The idea that somewhere last year...maybe on USCHO...that Clarkson wa "voted" the most hated ECAC team by ECAC fans, supports the "Clarkson envy" thing.

That and in the case of RIP, Tech still leads the all time series by a 2-1 ratio. Note that many of the frequent RIP posters on USCHO complain that they "never" beat Clarkson. Of course, thats not really the case....it just seems that way in their heads...hence, the "envy"! I've had many RIP alumni tellme this at Satellite broadcasts.

Lets not get into the non-hockey thing...cornell's Al D is the expert on that so just believe all of his nonsense and you'll be "fine"! :rolleyes:

[Maximum RPI]

I didn't even know who clarkson was till I saw them at a home game two years ago.
less do I know many who applied there. So where the rivalry comes from, I have no clue. Perhaps back in the old days, things were different. I just know that through RPI tradition, Clarkson sucks.

Its always nice to think people envy you though.
Keep feeling that man, I don't blame you.

[ursaminor]

Hey Stemmer, You were supposed to comment on the "ummmm....so, how about them Red Sox?" message. I know that you and I agree on that. :D

[demock]

Just to clarify about the bands quickly, we did communicate via email with the RIP Band "management" before the game. Here's the last paragraph in an email from Mark Matarazzo (co-manager of the band):


We have no problem sharing breaks during the game for faceoffs, etc. because, after all, we'd expect at least that much if we were on a road trip ourselves. The same goes for fight songs when a team scores or comes out onto the ice. This game, however, requires that we take up most, if not all of the between-period breaks.
So we wrote back and asked if we could at least play A song in one of the breaks. Otherwise we were fine with just enjoying the game and playing cheers at stoppages. Before the game we communicated with RIP's band director (or someone to that effect), and were told that we were part of a 3-way rotation including the RIP band, the DJ, and us. So obviously we figured we'd get to play every 3rd break. When that didn't quite happen, we played.

As far as numbers, the ECAC requires arenas to allow AT LEAST 25 instruments from visiting bands. Nobody ever told us to bring ONLY 25 instruments (as they so carefully do at Onion).

Anyway- it was a classic hockey game and I'm glad your freakout thing was fun for you guys.

[Stemmer]

Originally posted by Maximum RPI
I didn't even know who clarkson was till I saw them at a home game two years ago.
less do I know many who applied there. So where the rivalry comes from, I have no clue. Perhaps back in the old days, things were different. I just know that through RPI tradition, Clarkson sucks.

Its always nice to think people envy you though.
Keep feeling that man, I don't blame you.

And the tradition is that Tech usually beats RIP. The all time series is now 73-35-6 in Tech's favor.It's even more lopsided in Fridgen's regime at RIP. He's 4-11-1 against Clarkson.

At least you acknowledge that "things were different"...whatever that means. These scholls first played in 1924-25 and Tech has played more games against RIP than any other foe, except for Slu and Colgate, and the latter by only 3 coming into this season.

The "envy" thing is real...you may not have been around long enough yet to have felt it...but you will! :D

[Stemmer]

Originally posted by ursaminor
Hey Stemmer, You were supposed to comment on the "ummmm....so, how about them Red Sox?" message. I know that you and I agree on that. :D

So what about them ? Okay, so they have new owners...sort of. And Danny Boy is still the GM!

Have they won anything yet? :rolleyes:

[ursaminor]

Stemmer, Nothing about them really. It will be another season like all of them since World War I ended. :D

By the way, RPI wears red socks. :rolleyes:

[petal]

Okay let me clarify: Boston Red Sox. I was just trying to change the subject and calm things down a little :) I didn't want to say "How about those Mets?" because well,...they're NYC. Didn't want to see things get ugly on here. That's all. LGT!

[ursaminor]

Petal, I, for one, knew exactly what you were trying to do, only it is quite apparent that there is little correlation between one's rooting interest in college sports and that in pro sports. I have commented several times to Stemmer on USCHO that his opinions on college hockey are full of sh!t, but he speaks the truth when he writes about MLB, NFL, and NHL. :D

[Stemmer]

Originally posted by ursaminor
I have commented several times to Stemmer on USCHO that his opinions on college hockey are full of sh!t, D

excuse me? :rolleyes: