Clarkson-Dartmouth game cancelled by CSTV

[vicb]

Well this SUCKS BIG TIME. Apparently since being sold to ESPN the money grubbing Bastids at ESPN have decide that showing this game as well as some others is not BIG TIME enough for them. I am so ****ed I can't see straight. One of the reasons I bought the extra programming that included CSTV was to view this game. :mad:

Telecast Update

Annual Hockey Telecast — Friday, February 24, 2006

We regret to inform you that due to reasons beyond our control, CSTV: College Sports Television has decided to make a programming schedule change. As a result of a change in ownership at CSTV, a number of the originally scheduled College Hockey Games have been cancelled. One of the games is the Clarkson vs. Dartmouth hockey telecast scheduled for Friday, February 24, 2006. We received this information just prior to the holiday break and we find ourselves in the unfortunate position of canceling without time to regroup and attempt an alternative.

We understand the disappointment this telecast cancellation will cause our alumni, fami! ly and friends and hope to bring you live hockey again in the future.


Steve Newkofsky
Associate Vice President for Alumni Relations

[Todd '86]

This certainly does suck! (BTW, CSTV was bought by CBS, but why quibble when the result is the same: we get left in the cold again.)

Is it letter-writing/petition time?

[CUKnight]

Absolute B/S....

Do these people at CSTV know how to run a network? I sure as heck am writing a letter. Oh, and im also going to tell them to televise the Clarkson/Slu game if they want real ratings. No more of this clarkson/dartmouth stuff anyway...

I understand its a game, and its all about ratings, but this is ridiculous. And, now that i think of it, Clarksons fan base is probably one of the strongest out there (as far as alumni go anyway). I guarentee this game would have been one of the top 10 rating games they had this season.

[joecct]

I know I've been beating this horse to death, but there is money to be made out there, if only someone bit the bullet.

What if the ECAC signed a contract with B2 networks (ala the USHL and ECHL) and had all our games internet cast? For a fee, one could view their alma mater or the entire league.

[scottcomstock]

I just got the email. What a load of baloney. I was looking forward to this big-time. :mad:

I know that it probably isn't financially or technically feasible to go back to the old C/Ku-band sat broadcasts, but at least with those, we didn't have the game held hostage by the dictates of a corporate TV network.

I am not as versant in the politics or technology of one-off satellite broadcasts as I should be. Is there a similar, modern technology similar to C/Ku in use by bars and clubs, aside from DBS (DirecTV/Dish) that we could use?

[scottcomstock]

According to the latest 'News from Clarkson' newsletter (for those of you that haven't gotten it yet):



[The Clarkson Alumni Association has] begun early discussions
with the RPI Alumni Office to try and bring this game back for our
fans next season.


Here's to hopin' ya pull it off! :)

[ursaminor]

I have heard the same thing through RPI channels.

[Goldie Knight]

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:30 PM

Scott,

Did the article mention if it would be the home game or the away game for Clarkson next season?

Sometimes at RPI we are playing there during their Big Red Freakout....and those games have been a disaster lately for the Golden Knights. RPI usually holds this event in January or February. This year we escaped, but the hockey game results were equally awful.

I hope Steve is negotiating for a home game broadcast for Clarkson versus RPI from Cheel Arena. No, actually, I never want to play RPI again anywhere.:mad:

[ursaminor]

Goldie,

part of a message from the RPI Alumni Coordinator from a while back


We are working with ESPN-U, the new university sports channel from ESPN, to carrying the 30th Anniversary of the Big Red Freakout game against Cornell in February 2007. We have also asked ESPN-U to hold the RPI vs. Clarkson game on Friday, January 19, 2007. The 1/19/07 game is the one in Troy. :D

[scottcomstock]

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:30 PM
Did the article mention if it would be the home game or the away game for Clarkson next season?


The article itself didn't say, but it looks like ursaminor has some more information from the RPI end.

[ursaminor]

The article itself didn't say, but it looks like ursaminor has some more information from the RPI end.
Scott,

I wouldn't be surprised if Pete Pedone (RPI) suggested to his Clarkson counterpart that the game at RPI should be pushed to ESPN-U while his counterpart wanted the game at Clarkson televised. Hopefully, they go to ESPN-U (or whomever) with a united front. Although I'd prefer the Troy game to be televised, isn't it Clarkson's turn?


Edit: The message that I extracted that quote from had nothing else pertaining to a potential televised game next season.

[Stemmer]

Scott,

I wouldn't be surprised if Pete Pedone (RPI) suggested to his Clarkson counterpart that the game at RPI should be pushed to ESPN-U while his counterpart wanted the game at Clarkson televised. Hopefully, they go to ESPN-U (or whomever) with a united front. Although I'd prefer the Troy game to be televised, isn't it Clarkson's turn?


Edit: The message that I extracted that quote from had nothing else pertaining to a potential televised game next season.

Yes, I believe it would be Tech's turn to have a home game on TV but alternating may not work with an outlet like ESPN-U. A game has to fit into their schedule so I imagine Tech and RPI will have to take whichever date works best for them.

Also, how many cable systems carry ESPN-U? I know Cablevision here doesn't. This has the look of being another "satellite broadcast event" with alumni from both schools gathering at a local watering hole.

COOL! :D And oh yeah, it's DEFINITELY Clarkson's turn to win...we just have to figure out how to not blow a 2 or 3 goal lead! :rolleyes:

[ursaminor]

Rich,

Pete Pedone is RPI's alumni coordinator. He is not affiliated with the athletic department although in this case he would work with them. Since he is the alumni coordinator, the idea would be to have it broadcast to "watering holes'. That paragraph was extracting from a message about the fact that there was not going to be an RPI satellite brodcast this year, but they working on something else (which turned out to be the webcast last week), and had hopes for next year (what I quoted).

[Stemmer]

Ralph,

No misunderstanding at this end, at least I don't think so. There was never a plan to do a satellite B'cast this year as there wasn't last year. If you recall, we merely promoted the game that CSTV had already planned to do. That was the plan for the Tech-Dartmouth game again this year.

Clearly both RPI and Tech would have preferred that CSTV choose the Tech-RPI game but it was their call, not the alumni offices.

I suspect that we may never see a satellite broadcast again because the production costs are too high. I said "satellite broadcast" in quotes because it refers to the scenario of the alumni of both schools gathering to watch together, normally in a "watering hole."

Having organized and hosted the event in NJ since 1991, I'm pretty familar with the inner workings of it and yes, I know Peter P is not with the athletic dept ofc and neither is his Tech counterpart although work with their ADs on this event. :)

[Ron]

It would be great if ESPN-U would pick up the game. You would think Division-IV basketball could take a back seat for awhile.

Comcast (CN8) has made an effort to pick up a lot of ECAC stuff including the playoffs in recent years. I sent them a nice e-mail last year when they showed a lot of the playoffs including the championship game telling them I really appreciated it, and they responded back saying they were looking to do more in the future. They're also the owners of OLN, who obviously have taken on the NHL. They might be an interest group to try to contact as well.

-Ron

[Ron]

Ralph,

I suspect that we may never see a satellite broadcast again because the production costs are too high. I said "satellite broadcast" in quotes because it refers to the scenario of the alumni of both schools gathering to watch together, normally in a "watering hole."


Yeah, it wasn't even so much the productions costs anymore than the system was totally antiquated, it would require both schools to pretty much start from scratch in terms of hardware and everything. It's too bad too, because, the technology limitation really required us to gather in a certain spot to watch the game. Even if the game is carried on a national provider, people can watch it wherever they want, and that loses a bit of the allure. No Time-Warner in MA means no games for me as well. GAH!

[chuck]

Yeah, it wasn't even so much the productions costs anymore than the system was totally antiquated, it would require both schools to pretty much start from scratch in terms of hardware and everything. It's too bad too, because, the technology limitation really required us to gather in a certain spot to watch the game. Even if the game is carried on a national provider, people can watch it wherever they want, and that loses a bit of the allure. No Time-Warner in MA means no games for me as well. GAH!

Your in the wrong end of MA. Pittsfield has NY capitol region TW and the Union debacle (er game) was on last weekend. Of course I don't get cable, but I do have DSL so it was nice to watch the deb.., er game, on the 'puter. I would've watched the RPI fiasco, er game, too but I was busy watching the Patriots disaster, er game, instead.

[Stemmer]

Yeah, it wasn't even so much the productions costs anymore than the system was totally antiquated, it would require both schools to pretty much start from scratch in terms of hardware and everything. It's too bad too, because, the technology limitation really required us to gather in a certain spot to watch the game. Even if the game is carried on a national provider, people can watch it wherever they want, and that loses a bit of the allure. No Time-Warner in MA means no games for me as well. GAH!

The prod costs costs for a satellite b' cast were higher in recent years when the game was at RPI because at Tech, the students did the production whereas RPI used an outside prod. company which was obviously an added expense. So which is the "better" Tech school, eh? :)

But even so, I believe the schools shared the cost.

With CSTV, that problem went away last year.

Ron, I can speak only for the NJ location where we had a great site for the last 7 or 8 years ( a sports bar) and I think that and the comraderie and sharing with the RPI gang was still an allure.

Speaking of "gathering", I think Albany has a great attraction. Lets root and hope that we get that far so that we can gather!

[chuck]

...
Speaking of "gathering", I think Albany has a great attraction. Lets root and hope that we get that far so that we can gather!

We'll see you there!

(woof)